Jewish News report on debate: Fraser weighs into Hamas debate 14Oct09 October 20, 2009
by Peter Kohn – The Australian Jewish News – 14 October 2009
SHOULD the West engage Hamas? If ever there was an explosive debating topic, this was it.
The Monash Association of Debaters chose the proposition for its annual Vice-Chancellorâs Debate on October 14 featuring six debaters including former prime minister Malcolm Fraser, federal MP for Isaacs Mark Dreyfus and Zionist Council of Victoria president Dr Danny Lamm.
Knitted kippahs mixed with keffiyehs in a crowd nudging 1000, spilling into the aisles of a lecture theatre and adjoining foyer.
To the obvious relief of Monash vice-chancellor Professor Ed Byrne, the debaters remained civil, respected time limits and shook hands and chatted with opponents after the 90-minute debate.
Fraser, a vocal proponent of a Hamas dialogue, said that talking to Hamas is ânot showing weakness, but strengthâ, while establishing preconditions âis a sign of significant weaknessâ.
He also slammed âthe expansion of settlementsâ, which âdoes raise some questions about Israelâs ultimate intentionsâ.
Dr Lamm stressed Fraser was âa longtime friendâ of Israel, but said the elder statesman was wrong on Hamas. A âwin-win solutionâ involves a Jewish and Palestinian state, but Hamas wants âno place for Israel, no place for Jewsâ.
Dreyfus detailed Hamasâ record of repression against trade unionists and dissidents. And he condemned the kidnapping and detention of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit.
Editor’s note: It is interesting that our public advocate Michael Shaik did not rate a mention when he gave the strongest argument for the affirmative position and received numerous rounds of applause from the audience during his presentation. Courtesy would also have demanded that the other two speakers, Debra Smith (affirmative) and Tim Jeffries (negative) be mentioned in this report.
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